The 20 Practical chambering offers .204 Ruger-class ballistics using standard .223 Rem brass and easily-modified .223 Rem dies. 275. #2 03-04-2009, 02:31 AM woolenmammoth. I use a shell holder that has .003 inch ground off the top. I was wondering how short of a barrel I can get away with, in a 20 Practical, and still burn the power efficiently. The 20 Practical has the power and capacity to drive many of the 20 Cal bullets 500+ fps faster than the .223 Rem can drive its comparable varmint weight bullets. bullets (around 40 gr. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 20 practical barrel length question. Other than that, there is no accuracy gain or anything else. It isn’t quite that easy, but almost. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 20 practical barrel length question. Of all the contentious topics in the world of firearms, this elicits some of the most ferocious and deeply divided responses. If you have a magnum, 24 is the most you want, and you can get away with 23 inches unless you’re shooting something like a 7mm STW. The WOA .20 Practical barrels are available in 20” and 24” lengths. If you shop hard enough, you can find barrel length options from 7 inches all the way to 36 inches, which is pretty insane. All of my ammo fits in everybody’s rifle of the same caliber, because I do this. This is a good question but it isn’t quite as simple as that. Other good powders for the 20 Practical are H4198, N133, H322, and … Due to the current political and social environment in the United States currently manufacturers of anything AR related are currently backordered on most AR parts, including AR extensions. 204 Ruger. General Ammunition. High Power / Match Competition ; SPR Barrels.20 Cal. All X-Caliber AR barrels are made to a 1.92" gas block journal length EXCEPT our Lightweight & Spaghetti contours which have a 1.00" length. 18 inches 22 LR Sport (std) 22 LR Match. So I'm going to shoot it with the 26" barrel then plan on cut it down to either a 20-22" barrel to make it handier. Our enthusiasm for barrels shows with our quality and willingness to accommodate small batch orders as well as high-volume demands. Using a slow powder with a short barrel simply results in a huge muzzle bloom. barrel length. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Add to Cart. About AR15.COM. With my 20 Practical I’ll stick to 1.750 length of the parent .223 Rem case. fan. Hmmm, from what Chuck M says looks like 24" mite be where you would want to be if you want to burn all the powder. 22" vs 20" barrel length. 20-inch barrels allow you to maximize the velocity of a 5.56 or 223 Remington round. ). High Power / Match Competition ; SPR Barrels.20 Cal. 275. Bang for your buck? I got a really good deal on a 9.5" Danial Defense lite rail ..there my favorite..and I have an AR-15 carcass crying to be brought back to life..I thought it would be a cool combo..light weight, fast , accurate..then I found out the best barrel length is 22-24" for the 20 practical..so I thought I would try to push 20" with a mid length gas system. A 20 inch barrel seems about right to me for a riot gun, but it is definitely NOT a sporting gun and such weapons are not intended for shooting clay targets or any sort of game bird. This gun boasts superb accuracy, great stability on the bags, low recoil, and excellent ergonomics. I prefer the shorter barrels like my 18" 6x45 but would like to get maximum potential out of the caliber. Some shorter barrel and gas system length combinations with will also require a 1" gas block journal length instead of the usual 1.92" to make enough room for engraving our production stamp at the top front of the barrel. ... Barrel Length and contour help for 20 practical : kmshooter: 5: 1,409: by GLSHOOTER Apr 4, 2018 7:11:38 GMT -8 : new: Night hunting rig? Some of the more accurate .308/7.62 bolt guns I know of have 18 or 20″ barrels. Velocity is 3750 fps with the Berger 40-grainers in a 24″ barrel, and the 32s will run 4000 fps with the right load. 9 posts 21.75" barrel lenth 21.75" barrel lenth. I wish I had had mine threaded for a brake/can, but even wihtout a brake you can easily spot your shots if your position is good. We hold minimum tolerances across the caliber spectrum including minimum muzzle drift. With me I generally like on rifles with a long action a min 22" barrel to a max 24" barrel. Yes, engineering developments have brought us some very capable bullet designs that work well from 16”, 14.5”, and shorter barrel lengths within a given range envelope, but the 20” will still do it better. Robert reports outstanding accuracy with both 32gr and 40gr bullets. It’s been my experience that moly coating adds at least 20 percent to accurate barrel life. You can start with .223 Rem brass, and just size down the necks with a neck-bushing die. Let us show you that we can make a difference in your firearms! Thanks in advance. There are only slight differences in case Outside Diameter, shoulder angle, and case body length. At 24" long and with a 11 target crown these .20 Practical barrels are perfect for long range varmint hunting. For the purpose of our new buyers though, it is pretty safe to talk only about the 11-inch up to 20-inch versions. Every since I switched my AR over to a 204 ruger I have been a 20 cal. About AR15.COM. Barrel length affects velocity more when you tune the load for the barrel length. The 20 Practical feeds and functions 100% reliably with standard AR15 magazines. Some with the same barrel length, some different. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. At 24" long and with a 11° target crown these .20 Practical barrels are perfect for long range varmint hunting. The 20 Practical (Left) next to a .223 Rem (Right). Keep in mind that the shorter a shotgun barrel … It would have to be the 20 Practical. HI Guys, New to the forum. The 20 Practical feeds and functions 100% reliably with standard AR15 magazines. 20 Inches. If you have.223 Rem dies and brass, all you need to shoot the 20 Practical is a new barrel and a.230" bushing to neck down your.223 cases. And each barrel come pre-drilled with rifle length gas ports designed to … 2. Thanks for the input. The objectives of all this are to produce moderate amounts of high quality ammo for varmint hunting using readily available components especially brass. The “20 Practical” is a great little cartridge created by simply necking down the .223 Remington to 20 caliber. photo from Windigo Images. I have a Sako L461 in Tac20 with a 21" barrel and it only gives up 60fps compared to my 24" TAC20. I have an ar lower waiting for an upper and Ive been very intrigued with the .204 ruger but I already have a ton of .223 components so thinking the 20 practical … Barrels; Varmint / Predator Barrels; 6.8 SPC II Barrels; 3-Gun Competition / Tactical / SDM Barrels; 22 Nosler Barrels.224 Valkyrie; T2K Barrels; Ruger Precision Rifle Barrels; Limited Run Barrels; Fluting; Upper Parts. 20 Practical brass to me is a lot easier to make from.223 Rem than is the 20 Tactical. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. When you neck size only you run the risk of getting a case stuck in the chamber on a hot day, with a hot gun. Will the spread be bigger in the short barrel or will they be even closer since the Vartarg is so efficient and the 204 won't have the barrel length to exploit the larger amount of powder? Barrel length affects velocity more when you tune the load for the barrel length. The rifle below was set up with an upper chambered in 20 Practical, it features a side charging handle upper using the thick walled very rigid DPMS Low Pro upper receiver and a 24" 1:11" twist barrel which is perfect to stabilize the larger 20 cal. Published experiments on how barrel length affects muzzle velocity have been done with the .22 Long Rifle, and from those experiments it has been concluded that generally any barrel length greater than 18 inches is actually causing the .22 Long Rifle bullet to slow down. Share. Post Jun 12, 2010 #1 2010-06-13T00:26. 20 Practical barrel length? If you’re into starting ugly debates online, go to a shotgun forum and ask which barrel length is best. I get about 3600 fps from this with my 24 inch barrel .20 Practical and this is very close to what I get from my .204 Ruger that has a 22 inch barrel. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Both my 20 tac's are 26 " Hvy S/S brls with Vias Breaks. Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. As I stated before, I feel like the .223 performance lacks, even more so when you cut the barrel length down. A common barrel question goes something like this: What is the longest length barrel I can get for maximum velocity? Ballistics. Each barrel is individually crowned and chambered to ensure that the final product is a truly custom barrel. Have made kills out to 311 yds with no hold Over. Project Guns. Guess there is one way to find out. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I could really use some help on what length barrel will get me maximum velocity out of the vartarg and well as the 20 tactical. Robert Whitley has been developing a 20 Practical AR15 for us. This caliber is a great choice when you’re looking for 4200 FPS or better velocities and you are shooting from a fixed position such as prairie dog shooting. Rated 5.00 out of 5. It will be a nice varmint / deer rifle. New brass is very easy to deal with but once fired appears to need annealing then full length resized using a small base die. By adding key components and fitting the gun with an ultra-accurate, 20-caliber Bartlein barrel, we've achieved something special. I have an 8lb jug of BLC-2 and quite a bit of h322. The extra barrel length not only provides extra velocity and range, but offers you a softer shooting, smoother handling rifle. View Cart. One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy over the good fortune of others. All Rights Reserved. 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